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michigan. massive crowds gathering at the state capitol. they're protesting the state's right to work law. the lawmakers set to cast the final votes inside that building this morning. we understand the governor is very ready to sign that into law. very controversial situation going on live in lansing. good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you are here in america's nice room. >> i'm gregg jarrett in for bill gregg: the right to work vote will mean unions will no longer force workers to pay dues. that the birthplace of the powerful united auto workers union. martha: this has huge national implications over the power of organized labor. governor rick snyder believes there will be more job. he believes the protests hurt more than they help. here he is. >> if you go forward you will create a environment involving labor issues this could rise to the lebl level where i might not keep it off my agenda. i'm not happy about being in this situation. >> he has the responsibility as our leader avoi
michigan. massive crowds gathering at the state capitol. they're protesting the state's right to work law. the lawmakers set to cast the final votes inside that building this morning. we understand the governor is very ready to sign that into law. very controversial situation going on live in lansing. good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you are here in america's nice room. >> i'm gregg jarrett in for bill gregg: the right to work vote will mean unions will no longer force...
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where this happened, in michigan. i will pick up on that and how this story plays in right after the break. we'll carry you guys over. stay with me. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios >> 13 employees fired, two suspended without pay for a month. chrysler making no bones about it, these guys broke their rules. megyn: but have their jobs back anyway thanks to the arbitrator who has been taking a look at this dispute. rob is the reporter you just saw in the clip. we're also joined again by dan calabrese. dan, let me ask you, we talked earlier about michigan becoming a right-to-work state which is surprise to many, this is the birthplace of unions. this is the united auto workers. this is detroit. and, you know, there is a question about whether this type of story has gotten into the mind of people in michigan, this and others like it, where they said, you know what? let's open the door
where this happened, in michigan. i will pick up on that and how this story plays in right after the break. we'll carry you guys over. stay with me. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios >> 13 employees fired, two suspended without pay for a month. chrysler making no bones about it, these guys broke their rules. megyn: but have their jobs back anyway...
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to locate in michigan. we're the automobile manufacturer of the world and we need to have a open sign on that. i think this is also a step that we will not take workers rights for granted. it is all about worker empowerment and worker choice. bill: it is an economic earthquake in michigan. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. bill: all right. 18 past the hour. martha. martha: there are some new concerns about a hidden fee that is just coming to light to pay for obamacare. the $25 billion price tag on this little-known tax will affect everyone of us. we'll tell you what it is. bill: we'll get back to this tragic mall shooting in oregon. the height of the mall shopping season. inside the mind of a shooter and an update from police on a possible motive this story. >> for all of us the mall is supposed to be a place we can all take our families. feel comfortable this is a great place, especially at the holiday season like this. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop?
to locate in michigan. we're the automobile manufacturer of the world and we need to have a open sign on that. i think this is also a step that we will not take workers rights for granted. it is all about worker empowerment and worker choice. bill: it is an economic earthquake in michigan. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. bill: all right. 18 past the hour. martha. martha: there are some new concerns about a hidden fee that is just coming to light to pay for obamacare. the...
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that is the message these guys are sending in michigan. it is basically the domestic thing you are seeing in the arab spring, the protests against morsi in cairo, they were completely peaceful and the muslim brotherhood show up to protest and seven people difficult. there is always an advantage to the side that means it and to the side that is willing to apply the muscle so i don't think the unions understand the people call the message. >>neil: what i am wondering, what happens now. obviously they are upset and taking it to the next level and feel emboldened after the president's re-election is they will not give up without a fight and it could be nasty. what do you see? >>guest: they are not. they understand, this is an amazing decision in michigan and if it goes this way across the country, it is very bad news. these guys will be at a tipping point and they don't want to go that way. you are seeing a glimpse of what the future is like as america gets broker and broker, that you will see people prepared to do all kinds of things out ther
that is the message these guys are sending in michigan. it is basically the domestic thing you are seeing in the arab spring, the protests against morsi in cairo, they were completely peaceful and the muslim brotherhood show up to protest and seven people difficult. there is always an advantage to the side that means it and to the side that is willing to apply the muscle so i don't think the unions understand the people call the message. >>neil: what i am wondering, what happens now....
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history made in michigan. governor rick snyder officially signing right to work laws that diminish the power of unions. doug luzader is life in washington for us. >> michigan makes it 24 there are 2 dozen right to work states across the country. michigan may be the most significant because of the historic role it played in the growth of union power just decade after decade. it did get ugly outside of the state capitol there in lansing. there were huge protests outside of the capitol building. at one point union supporters had a small counter protest. steven crauter was punched several times. michigan's republican governor told bill o'reilly last night that the new law was about worker's rights. >> this legislation is about freedom to choose for workers, bill. this isn't about the relationship between employers and unions at all. this is not about collective bargaining at all. this is not about other basics e about organizing at all. this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> democrats fear t
history made in michigan. governor rick snyder officially signing right to work laws that diminish the power of unions. doug luzader is life in washington for us. >> michigan makes it 24 there are 2 dozen right to work states across the country. michigan may be the most significant because of the historic role it played in the growth of union power just decade after decade. it did get ugly outside of the state capitol there in lansing. there were huge protests outside of the capitol...
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as the midwest is >> unions still worked up over michigan's new right to work law. they're trying to get it on the ballot on hope voters will shoot it down. toby says that could have big repercussions everywhere. >> shows 50 years, 10 years, 20 years, right to work states, do not have to pay union dues to work at a company have outperformed in sales growth, job growth and unemployment rate and if you look at the vast example of michigan, let's put it towards indiana where they changed the law. come on, man, the math does not add up and you know-- >> susan, your math is different. >> it definitely is. i would say mixed results at best. if you look at north carolina, georgia, these are really long-term decades old right to work states. they have some of the highest rates of unemployment right now and then you've got states like massachusetts and long being stronghold of unionism and workers, and they've got one of the lowest right now. it's not about right to work, it's not what people make it out to be. >> brenda: gary b, you see that bullet, don't you? >> i do. i su
as the midwest is >> unions still worked up over michigan's new right to work law. they're trying to get it on the ballot on hope voters will shoot it down. toby says that could have big repercussions everywhere. >> shows 50 years, 10 years, 20 years, right to work states, do not have to pay union dues to work at a company have outperformed in sales growth, job growth and unemployment rate and if you look at the vast example of michigan, let's put it towards indiana where they...
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in michigan, this is the way we can be competitive. listen, everyone talks about the great comeback in detroit in the auto sector, that's a mirage. michigan's in trouble, detroit is in trouble and this is how they compete on the national scale, ultimately, a global scale. >> neil: dagen? >> very significant that this is happening and by the way, this is just the right to not have to pay union dues if you don't want to belong to a union first and foremost. >> neil: and you got that. >> very significant that it's happening in the birthplace of the u.a.w. it could spread aoss the midwest if this gains momentum and if you look back. >> by the way those are not sunglasses. >> i'm sorry. >> and what is he doing? >> and i think he's a union buster. >> he's not nothing, not shouting. >> not him. >> and exactly. >> but if you look back on the last decade at right to work states, you have faster economic growth, faster payroll growth, you have faster population growth. it works for those states. >> and dagen, it's no fantasy, in nevada a right t
in michigan, this is the way we can be competitive. listen, everyone talks about the great comeback in detroit in the auto sector, that's a mirage. michigan's in trouble, detroit is in trouble and this is how they compete on the national scale, ultimately, a global scale. >> neil: dagen? >> very significant that this is happening and by the way, this is just the right to not have to pay union dues if you don't want to belong to a union first and foremost. >> neil: and you got...
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here in michigan or creating a business here in michigan, you now as employees will have the choice whether to join a union or not to join a unit. >> do you have any sort of study to show this is in any way going to enhance the economy of michigan? can you point to other states? has this been a direct impact on their states, their economic viability. >> if you look at indiana, the amount of projects they are about to take and have undertaken have given their people a great tune to provide jobs in their communities. >> why do you think the governor changed his mind on this? a lot of people were talking, a lot of the contracts don't like it because they didn't like the process. it got pushed through quickly, and, b, the governor change the his mine the last couple months. >> the governor locked at it and said this is an opportunity that is here. it's bold. against it's historic because it puts michigan on the map as a place people are going to want to do business. >> why is an opportunity now and not before? >> he asked the leaders to stand down on it and they did not, so i'm not read
here in michigan or creating a business here in michigan, you now as employees will have the choice whether to join a union or not to join a unit. >> do you have any sort of study to show this is in any way going to enhance the economy of michigan? can you point to other states? has this been a direct impact on their states, their economic viability. >> if you look at indiana, the amount of projects they are about to take and have undertaken have given their people a great tune to...
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in michigan we've had a statute for some time. we had some controversy and we're under the old statute now. this goes back to many years where we had emergency manager status. they can come in, work with the city and resolve the issues in a more efficient fashion than the traditional way. get to an emergency like this, the traditional way wasn't working. >> aren't you at that point? i mean the unemployment rate, of course, in october of '09 is 25.5. i imagine a lot of people were discouraged and left and that's the decline to 18.9 but that's more than twice the national average. around you at an emergency in detroit? >> detroit has been in crisis for a long time. i think we should always try to work with the locally elected leaders first. my goal is not to run any particular city, it's to be a supportive partner. we've worked hard to strive to do that. we achieved results but now we aren't seeing the progress and we need to push ahead and get it resolved and better services to detroiters. >> i look at it from afar, because i don't
in michigan we've had a statute for some time. we had some controversy and we're under the old statute now. this goes back to many years where we had emergency manager status. they can come in, work with the city and resolve the issues in a more efficient fashion than the traditional way. get to an emergency like this, the traditional way wasn't working. >> aren't you at that point? i mean the unemployment rate, of course, in october of '09 is 25.5. i imagine a lot of people were...
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is right for michigan. tell us in a nutshell, what are you trying to do? >> create an experiment in michigan where we have labor freedom, defined as where unions are free to make their case as workers are to make their choice, dana. >> so originally governor snyder when he started his term, this wasn't necessarily at the top of his agenda. he had the budget deficit situation, the job killing tax he tried to get fix, but saw the results in indiana when governor mitch daniels made indiana a right to work state. is that what michigan is looking to, to try to figure out how to jump-start this economy that's lagged at 18.9% unemployment rate? it's too much to bear for workers there. >> governor snyder has been consistent from the beginning that it wasn't on his agenda yet, but he's been successful at leading us through dramatic changes in michigan. we are the comeback state, but now with the data that we've received from the blessings of having to work through proposal two, it's clear that they want us to become
is right for michigan. tell us in a nutshell, what are you trying to do? >> create an experiment in michigan where we have labor freedom, defined as where unions are free to make their case as workers are to make their choice, dana. >> so originally governor snyder when he started his term, this wasn't necessarily at the top of his agenda. he had the budget deficit situation, the job killing tax he tried to get fix, but saw the results in indiana when governor mitch daniels made...
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demonstrators came from all over michigan and neighboring states. united auto worker, teamsters, brotherhood of ewhether he can tri call workers and school teachers. the school district reports 750 staffers called in sick and schools were closed. this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution. that ballot issue failed in the november election. >> what continued after that is start of the discussion right to work. >> it became a loud and boisterous discussion. so i felt at times in terms of the good leadership to say i didn't want it on my agenda now. it's here. >> demonstrators say working men and women are the subject of political retribution. >> retribution for standing up and fighting for working people. they want to us attack the different groups. they attack us. >> right to work legislation would outlaw the mandatory union due and membership as
demonstrators came from all over michigan and neighboring states. united auto worker, teamsters, brotherhood of ewhether he can tri call workers and school teachers. the school district reports 750 staffers called in sick and schools were closed. this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution....
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we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at most of those jobs aren't going to be unionized and they are going to be good paying jobs. this is all about more and better jobs and good paying jobs. it's going to work in michigan. >> bill: i have got to ask you about detroit which is a city on the verge of collapse. we think mayor dave bing is a good guy. maybe i'm wrong. i don't follow it that closely. detroit has no money. can't pay its bills. who is going to bail out detroit or is the whole structure going to collapse. >> there is not going to be a bailout of detroit in terms of state resources. as a practical matter what the real issue is is
we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at...
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a similar situation in michigan. the michigan republican party hold both houses in michigan and the governor's chamber as well. will we see similar sort of protests that we say 24 months ago in madison when dramatic changes were done up there under the leadership of republican governor scott walker and a republican held state legislature there? will there be those sustained protests as well? common sentence would suggest it does look like this piece of legislation moving forward which would offer an option for anyone going into a quote union employer, whether to join a unioner to not, that this will be fought and fought hard. it is likely to pass and likely to be signed. the question is, what will unions and their allies do in response. they really have nothing to lose by raising a stink about this. you will see protesters up in lansing today, tomorrow and maybe for some time. megyn: we have a big story developing in washington over our debt crisis. the national debt stands at $16 trillion. it was $10.6 trillion when
a similar situation in michigan. the michigan republican party hold both houses in michigan and the governor's chamber as well. will we see similar sort of protests that we say 24 months ago in madison when dramatic changes were done up there under the leadership of republican governor scott walker and a republican held state legislature there? will there be those sustained protests as well? common sentence would suggest it does look like this piece of legislation moving forward which would...
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want to bring jobs to michigan. for a generation or two things are declining. they looked to other states and say we'd like to be like indiana a change our fate. >> bob: let me ask you a question. they give them five days they had to under law. the state troopers were around who were exempt from this, by the way. the governor, the person you say is a mild mannered -- >> dana: don't. >> bob: what? i haven't said anything. >> dana: you are about to say -- i know what you are about to say. it's obvious, the tactic from the left are driving me crazy. they are not going to win friends or influence people by that type of behavior or attacking me because i say that the governor is a mild mannered guy. >> bob: you say he is mild mannered. i don't know him. but maybe he is. he signed the bill, refused a signing ceremony. done behind closed doors. >> greg: unlike the healthcare bill. >> eric: it was done absolutely legally. the people of michigan -- >> bob: voters -- no, they did not. >> eric: theyer with lechted. every one o
want to bring jobs to michigan. for a generation or two things are declining. they looked to other states and say we'd like to be like indiana a change our fate. >> bob: let me ask you a question. they give them five days they had to under law. the state troopers were around who were exempt from this, by the way. the governor, the person you say is a mild mannered -- >> dana: don't. >> bob: what? i haven't said anything. >> dana: you are about to say -- i know what you...
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thank you. >> now to lansing, michigan. protesters have invaded the michigan state capital over the right to work. >> the unions are on the ropes. [chanting] >> top democrats here in michigan say despite everything you see, despite all the show of force on the lawn forecast capital -- >> i wasn't talking to you. you put your hands on me, see what happens. >> this stage of the fight is really over. [chanting] >> in michigan it's going to play out just like it did in wisconsin. >> we are here to protest against right to work. >> this is giving workers the freedom to choose. >> what time is it? >> union time. >> what time is it? >> union time. >> what time is it. >> union time. >> the so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with the economy, they have everything to do with politics. >> in the end it's a shakedown for political contributions and the democrats do well with unions so they want unions to be really powerful. >> the governor of michigan is one greedy nerd, and he's one weak geek, and we aren't going to t
thank you. >> now to lansing, michigan. protesters have invaded the michigan state capital over the right to work. >> the unions are on the ropes. [chanting] >> top democrats here in michigan say despite everything you see, despite all the show of force on the lawn forecast capital -- >> i wasn't talking to you. you put your hands on me, see what happens. >> this stage of the fight is really over. [chanting] >> in michigan it's going to play out just like it...
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he want what is is best for michigan. >> eric: we have to go. >> dana: 57% of michigan agree. >> bob: why did they attack the innocent what did they have against camping? >> eric: they attacked a tent. crowder was trying to make sure no one got hurt inside the tent. coming up, truth about the most controversial scenes in a controversial movie "zero dark thirty." a lot of backlash over the waterboarding staged in the bin laden raid film. keep it right here. on "the five." ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've bought ragu for years. [ thinking ] wonder what other questionable choices i've made? i choose date number 2! whooo! [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego. the red cross was down here all the time. [ man ] they've given us a lot of heart. in times of need, they're there. ♪ [ kerry ] my dad was watching his house burn. he turned around, and all of a sudden, therwas this guy standing there from the red cross. at a point where i had just lost everything, the idea that there was someone there... that
he want what is is best for michigan. >> eric: we have to go. >> dana: 57% of michigan agree. >> bob: why did they attack the innocent what did they have against camping? >> eric: they attacked a tent. crowder was trying to make sure no one got hurt inside the tent. coming up, truth about the most controversial scenes in a controversial movie "zero dark thirty." a lot of backlash over the waterboarding staged in the bin laden raid film. keep it right here. on...
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michigan voters, the overall households support. this 45% of the union households support the move. 39% of the democratic households support it. 55% of the republican households. there is momentum. they realize they have to do something. this would be a fundamental change. that could alter the history. >> eric: today's news is good example. they are chuging 40s and smoking weed in the lunch break and today they return to building cars that you and i drive the kids to school in. because of the union contract. only because of the union contracts. >> bob: c'mon, bob. you can find a video like this. >> bob: i can find it in every right to work state in the south lunch break. >> eric: they'd get fired. >> kimberly: they're not from texas. >> bob: they don't get fired in the south? >> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because th
michigan voters, the overall households support. this 45% of the union households support the move. 39% of the democratic households support it. 55% of the republican households. there is momentum. they realize they have to do something. this would be a fundamental change. that could alter the history. >> eric: today's news is good example. they are chuging 40s and smoking weed in the lunch break and today they return to building cars that you and i drive the kids to school in. because of...
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we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at most of those jobs aren't going to be unionized and they are going to be good paying jobs. this is all about more and better jobs and good paying jobs. it's going to work in michigan. >> bill: i have got to ask you about detroit which is a city on the verge of collapse. we think mayor dave bing is a good guy. maybe i'm wrong. i don't follow it that closely. detroit has no money. can't pay its bills. who is going to bail out detroit or is the whole structure going to collapse. >> there is not going to be a bailout of detroit in terms of state resources. as a practical matter what the real issue is is
we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at...
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in michigan, the parasites are looking fora i new host -- forcing michigan citizen who is do not want them there to be press into unions that they don't want to join. >> stop blaming the rank-and-file union member. they are not the ones causing this. it's the leadership -- >> yes, they are! >> after steven had his hans -- >> they pulled down a tent! it's not me! it's hundreds of people who were in a tent! come on, man! let's be honest! >> there were flame throwers and cancer patients everywhere. a little more dramatic. >> sean: thanks for being with us. the violence demonstrated by the union protesters is undeniable, the proof is in the footage. why did the mainstream media show none of this? we will look at the phony narrative. plus, tonight, we will check in with michelle malkin and much, much more as "hannity" continues. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my goodness! oh my gosh, this looks amazing! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15entrees under $15, seafood, chicken and more! oothe tilapiawith roast
in michigan, the parasites are looking fora i new host -- forcing michigan citizen who is do not want them there to be press into unions that they don't want to join. >> stop blaming the rank-and-file union member. they are not the ones causing this. it's the leadership -- >> yes, they are! >> after steven had his hans -- >> they pulled down a tent! it's not me! it's hundreds of people who were in a tent! come on, man! let's be honest! >> there were flame throwers...
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unions in michigan, they done a lot of great things. we are the center of the labor movement going back the last century. in the 20's and 30's and 40's they helped with working conditions, and wages and people chose to join a union. >>neil: what does this legislation do? it doesn't compel you not to be if a union but gives you the choice. >>guest: people used to choose to join a union and no i don't believe it is appropriate to say just to keep your job you have to pay dues and be a member. so, this creates an environment where people can say, they are choosing to join a union because the unions put a value proposition to make it worthwhile and if they are not providing value someone should be forced to choose so i view this as pro worker legislation. >>neil: governor, this woman's remarks went viral soon after she said them, a council woman in detroit talking about the post obama election envice president, i am sure you are familiar, but if you are not, please respond to this. >> after the election of jimmy carter, we had young and he
unions in michigan, they done a lot of great things. we are the center of the labor movement going back the last century. in the 20's and 30's and 40's they helped with working conditions, and wages and people chose to join a union. >>neil: what does this legislation do? it doesn't compel you not to be if a union but gives you the choice. >>guest: people used to choose to join a union and no i don't believe it is appropriate to say just to keep your job you have to pay dues and be a...
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how do you think it will change things in the state of michigan? fifth iest union state in the country. >> it's showing you what is happening in the rust belt. you have had it happen in wisconsin and indiana. weakening of the grip of unions. we saw when the auto went in collapse, auto company in the south, transplants did well because they weren't saddled with the union wages but also the union work rules, which are insane. so i think will be l be loosening of the grip. way to stay competitive. >> astonishing this is all happening in the heart of union land, historically. i will add to charles, because it's the lightning round that ohio is next possibility. harder go there. it would have to be done by ballot initiative, weakening the union. >> john: five seconds or less. >> i agree with everything they said and the key is eliminating the dues check off on the public sector union of michigan because that is where the democratic party gets its money. >> john: senate voted for. see where that goes. thank you all. that is it for the panel. stay tuned t
how do you think it will change things in the state of michigan? fifth iest union state in the country. >> it's showing you what is happening in the rust belt. you have had it happen in wisconsin and indiana. weakening of the grip of unions. we saw when the auto went in collapse, auto company in the south, transplants did well because they weren't saddled with the union wages but also the union work rules, which are insane. so i think will be l be loosening of the grip. way to stay...
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>>guest: why would the president spent yesterday in michigan railing against something that the michigan legislature is going to do when we are facing a few days before going over the cliff? i don't get it. unless the president things he will gain in the short temperature -- term politically by going over the cliff but long term historians put the blame on the president of the up. it may look like a gain short term, but in the long run, is that really helpful to the president's reputation in 20 or 30 years they could not get a deal and push the country into another recession or a short-term recession? >> harry reid, the majority leader, would say very unlikely we would have a deal by christmas, ostensibly we are running out of days on the calendar. if that is the case and he quibbles that the republicans have not come up with specifics, are you against running to the clinton rates or are you okay where that if it avoids the hoops of looking for like revenue? >>guest: i am in favor of anything that gets an agreement. it seems to me, why are we focusing on that narrow part of this entire s
>>guest: why would the president spent yesterday in michigan railing against something that the michigan legislature is going to do when we are facing a few days before going over the cliff? i don't get it. unless the president things he will gain in the short temperature -- term politically by going over the cliff but long term historians put the blame on the president of the up. it may look like a gain short term, but in the long run, is that really helpful to the president's reputation...
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they don't have jobs in michigan. do you know, by the way, this someone of my candidates for president, rick snyder. he's a magnificent governor and bless the legislator. detroit used to have millionaires than new york. it it was a beautiful city. they almost had the eolympics there. you can see the videos of what detroit was like. first it was dried by the mob with the race riots. then it was destroyed by the unions driving the jobs abroad. and people have the precise numbers on this. the amount of money you paid for a car that is paying for pensions of people who retired five years ago that's correct is a do youing state. one of the most beautiful states in the union and that's what happens. >> let me answer your great point. this is true. right now detroit is on the verge of bankruptcy. one of america's great cities. they have lost half their population. can go on the internet. i urge our viewers to go out there. you can buy homes in detroit for a thousand dollars. last time i was there, it was shocking how one boa
they don't have jobs in michigan. do you know, by the way, this someone of my candidates for president, rick snyder. he's a magnificent governor and bless the legislator. detroit used to have millionaires than new york. it it was a beautiful city. they almost had the eolympics there. you can see the videos of what detroit was like. first it was dried by the mob with the race riots. then it was destroyed by the unions driving the jobs abroad. and people have the precise numbers on this. the...
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it was in ojaio and in michigan?! cadillac square. that's detroit, where the democratic candidates launched their campaigns. >> greta: wroont you agree that private-sector unions are much different in in terms of historically, needing protection and gathering together -- pooling resources. >> i'm a union guy. i am in aftra/sag. i pay dues and i don't have to. i was a journalist in 1962. the editor hired me and they said, you have to join the union in 60 months or you will be fired. the union said, have you to pay for a union strike in new york, or we will get you fired when i was writing editorials against the strike in new york. so this is the -- it is that kind of coercion, which is coming to an end, everywhere. you heard it right here. the folks in michigan said, we looked at indiana, they are gettingions, businesses are coming in there. that's why we did it. they look south, where are the foreign companies coming? spartanburg, south carolina, bmwar plants, mercedes, tuscaloosa. volkswagen volkswagen, chattanooga, nissan plant. whe
it was in ojaio and in michigan?! cadillac square. that's detroit, where the democratic candidates launched their campaigns. >> greta: wroont you agree that private-sector unions are much different in in terms of historically, needing protection and gathering together -- pooling resources. >> i'm a union guy. i am in aftra/sag. i pay dues and i don't have to. i was a journalist in 1962. the editor hired me and they said, you have to join the union in 60 months or you will be fired....
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i'm curious about the rank-and-file union members in michigan or the people in michigan, what are they thinking or saying about this battle? >> we've heard really from both sides. there's a group that support right to work that say they want more freedom from their unions but more accountability from their unions. right to work could give them that. the other side which is obviously the more loud voice right now of unions saying this will diminish their power and influence and hurt workers leading to fewer jobs, lower wages, and that sort of consequences. >> greta: would it be fair to say that the popularity of unions in michigans is split? >> i don't know if you could say it's split. i mean, obviously one side is louder than the other at this point. it's hard to tell. >> greta: indeed, we've seen the storming of your state capitol. that's been quite a sight which has certainly put a national spotlight on this. i don't know if it's something the unions and the governor want, but you sure got it. >> definitely. it looks like come tuesday that could be the same as well and if not possibl
i'm curious about the rank-and-file union members in michigan or the people in michigan, what are they thinking or saying about this battle? >> we've heard really from both sides. there's a group that support right to work that say they want more freedom from their unions but more accountability from their unions. right to work could give them that. the other side which is obviously the more loud voice right now of unions saying this will diminish their power and influence and hurt...
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unemployment in michigan is 9%. you know, across the country, we've got the number earlier today 7.7%. you could argue the second number you see on the screen now. detroit's unemployment rate, 18.9%. >> right. bill: detroit's population is at its lowest level in more than 100 years. that is really a story you could follow throughout the entire rust belt. detroit population last year, 706,000. you know what it was in 1950? 1.8 million. rick snyder is trying to do try to draw some of this business back here and get numbers back up. matt that goes to the point you were making there. that union worker we just heard, the woman, african-american woman, what this means you can work alongside a union member and not pay union dues and still get the benefits of the union. now, steve, is she right? >> no, she's wrong. look, i think it is in the first amendment of our constitution says the right of association, right? you have the right to associate with a union if you want to but, right of association also means you have the r
unemployment in michigan is 9%. you know, across the country, we've got the number earlier today 7.7%. you could argue the second number you see on the screen now. detroit's unemployment rate, 18.9%. >> right. bill: detroit's population is at its lowest level in more than 100 years. that is really a story you could follow throughout the entire rust belt. detroit population last year, 706,000. you know what it was in 1950? 1.8 million. rick snyder is trying to do try to draw some of this...
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. >>> time for a look at whose talking the tensions are high in michigan after lawmakers passed right to work legislation. it let's workers decide whether or not they want to vojune a union. >> brian kelly sitting down with greta van susteren to discuss the developments about what he hopes it will do to the state's unemployment. >> the unions make their case to the employees with a closed union shop like we have had in the past employees were -- it was a compulsory requirement they had to pay the union. the union has to earn their business, earn their dues. that will put the employees in a position of having greater freedom and kroefrl the organization that represents them. but then also it will make the union more responsive. when we look to the neighbor to the south we see the pipeline in the state of indiana of jobs and job growth has been very impressive. we look at that very closely when we did our planning here in michigan as well and gaining the support for this new law or this change in our law. also about 25 percent we figure of firms won't even put your state on the radar sc
. >>> time for a look at whose talking the tensions are high in michigan after lawmakers passed right to work legislation. it let's workers decide whether or not they want to vojune a union. >> brian kelly sitting down with greta van susteren to discuss the developments about what he hopes it will do to the state's unemployment. >> the unions make their case to the employees with a closed union shop like we have had in the past employees were -- it was a compulsory...
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hundreds of union workers responding to michigan's republican controlled legislature's push to make michigan the 24th right to work state. the vote takes place tuesday. governor snyder is now backing the plan. >> this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't the the opportunity to say they want to be long or not. second piece is this will be good for economic development for more p and better jobs coming to michigan. >> the union workers agree with the governor they argue michigan was built on unions. they claim the gop majority state legislature is making an attack on the middle class. >> on tuesday it's important because they are going to try to reconcile the bills. the governor who said he didn't want the legislation now says he is going to sign it. so it's an attack on working families and we are going to be there and not stand for it. >> they are still standing for it because over the weekend union organizers continue to prepare their numbers for take to go the streets this week staging demonstrations against the measure. if the vote goes through they say it will hurt organize
hundreds of union workers responding to michigan's republican controlled legislature's push to make michigan the 24th right to work state. the vote takes place tuesday. governor snyder is now backing the plan. >> this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't the the opportunity to say they want to be long or not. second piece is this will be good for economic development for more p and better jobs coming to michigan. >> the union workers agree with the governor they argue...
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i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. we have hard working people in michigan, and this is giving workers choice. >> reporter: now, a point republicans put up front is that this is not targeting collective bargaining, they insist that they are not breaking the unions. all this does is make union dues, union membership optional with the exception of police and firefighters. jon? jon: well, is this fight over? i mean, are democrats in michigan throwing in the towel? >> reporter: no, no, not by a long shot. bob mccann says to say that this will face legal challenges is an understatement. to start with, they will challenge the manner in which this legislation was pushed through so rapidly in the lame duck session, the fact that demonstrators were kept out of the chambers, the fact that police were called in. democrats claim republicans have pulled every trick in the book. >> these guys have lied to us every step of the way, and they're acting like cowards by pushing this through in the dark of night in lame duck. >> he says t
i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. we have hard working people in michigan, and this is giving workers choice. >> reporter: now, a point republicans put up front is that this is not targeting collective bargaining, they insist that they are not breaking the unions. all this does is make union dues, union membership optional with the exception of police and firefighters. jon? jon: well, is this fight over? i mean, are democrats in michigan throwing in the towel? >>...
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alisyn: a central michigan university student could face 15 years in jail for allegedly poisoning her roommate. investigators say 19-year-old kay louisiana confessed to putting bleach in her roommate's tea after they argued about dirty dishes last month. the victim was treated at a local hospital and released. she is charged with felony poisoning and pleaded not guilty at wednesday apartment's arraignment. the preliminary hearing is set for next week. >> put your light on it. [growling ] >> it's a snow leopard. let me call it in. alisyn: that is a clip from natgeo's wild snow leopard of afghanistan. the show's cameras going into the middle of a war zone and following a man on a successful mission to track down and capture one of the most illusive big cats on earth. this show heirs this sunday. joining me live is boon smith the big cat wrangler featured on nat geo snow leopards of afghanistan. if you heard my voice crack it's because you brought a friend into the studio who is making me a little nervous. who do you have here. >> a five-month-old bengal tiger. alisyn: sure. >> his name
alisyn: a central michigan university student could face 15 years in jail for allegedly poisoning her roommate. investigators say 19-year-old kay louisiana confessed to putting bleach in her roommate's tea after they argued about dirty dishes last month. the victim was treated at a local hospital and released. she is charged with felony poisoning and pleaded not guilty at wednesday apartment's arraignment. the preliminary hearing is set for next week. >> put your light on it. [growling ]...
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obama the road to michigan he was trying to sell his tax hike proposal. he claimed michigan's law that gives workers the right to choose whether or not they want to be long to a union is about politics not economics. listen to this. >> we have to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to better bargains. >> so-called right to work laws they don't have to do with economics they have everything to do with politics. what they are really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. we don't want a race to the bottom. we want a race to the top. we -- (applause) >> america is not going to compete based on low skill, low wage, no worker's rights. we have to get past this whole situation where we manufacturer crises because of politics. >> despite what the president said the new right to work law does include collective bargaining rights. while preached the right to workers he says american people show compassion. speaker boehner while he fights to keep america from plunging off the fiscal cliff. >> if you have an
obama the road to michigan he was trying to sell his tax hike proposal. he claimed michigan's law that gives workers the right to choose whether or not they want to be long to a union is about politics not economics. listen to this. >> we have to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to better bargains. >> so-called right to work laws they don't have to do with economics they have everything to do with politics. what they are really talking about is...
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the michigan governor snyder has vetoed that legislation. that will not go into law in the state of michigan. >> more now on the efforts to return to normal in newtown, connecticut, after the school shooting. we hear from the mothers of two sandy hook elementary school students, one survived the attack and the other did not go to that school on friday. and molly line says the moms are ready to get their kids back-to-school. >> exactly. they also have students that go to the other newtown schools that went to class today saying it was good to get the kids folk and both support the move to go to the new school in monroe for all the sandy hook elementary school. the third grader survived the massacre the he was at school and by the end of the week they can look at the new school in monroe. and karen's son was kept home from school on friday, he does not know he has lost friends only a bad man came to the school and he is one of many kindergarteners gathering to be together to do crafts and to have holiday fun before the season gets going, and t
the michigan governor snyder has vetoed that legislation. that will not go into law in the state of michigan. >> more now on the efforts to return to normal in newtown, connecticut, after the school shooting. we hear from the mothers of two sandy hook elementary school students, one survived the attack and the other did not go to that school on friday. and molly line says the moms are ready to get their kids back-to-school. >> exactly. they also have students that go to the other...
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anyway, right to work becomes law in michigan. oh god, miles. you said right to work is unfair because nonunion workers at a shop will get the same benefits -- >> that's what the guy said. >> unions can negotiate members only contract if they want to which means the wages and working conditions set by the contracts would only apply to that shop. >> those jobs exist in the first place because the unions fought hard to get them and then the scabs walk in. >> that's a separate point. >> basically. >> bill, you said there were no arrests, as if that makes punching a guy okay. >> they have gotten medals. >> you pay those men to punch you. >> and then he pays them in medals. >> there is an on-line campaign going on so charges can be pressed. >> fox news has been playing that tape for a long amount of time. >> also bill, astoria is real. >> you heard me say that again? i thought it was under my breath. >> dennis, i agree there is an element of the left that enjoys seeing america hurt. and miles, yes, that's exactly why barack obama was aborted the nobe
anyway, right to work becomes law in michigan. oh god, miles. you said right to work is unfair because nonunion workers at a shop will get the same benefits -- >> that's what the guy said. >> unions can negotiate members only contract if they want to which means the wages and working conditions set by the contracts would only apply to that shop. >> those jobs exist in the first place because the unions fought hard to get them and then the scabs walk in. >> that's a...
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coming up, the tape about how liberals are trying to strong-arm their agenda into michigan law. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is...
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the michigan republican congressman who is here to say what his party shouldn't do. congressman, your fear came on taxes. don't do it. >>guest: given the deals we are talking abouts we should not cave on taxes when the amount of spending cuts over 10 years are a drop in the bucket. >>neil: so, when you lost the committee leadership assignment, did that opposition play into that? did speaker boehner say if you were quieter you would still be if a key role? >>guest: well, speaker boehner's staff have not talked to me. the only talking they have done is to the press off the record and anonymously so i have not heard anything directly from the speaker and, look be it is not about who will compromise or who will work with democrats or who will do what is right for our country is what matters. right now, the kind of things we hear from both the speaker and the president are not what is great for our country. we need were bigger spending cuts, we can talk about taxes but it needs to be part of a larger deal that balances our budget. >>neil: so, congressman, you are not aver
the michigan republican congressman who is here to say what his party shouldn't do. congressman, your fear came on taxes. don't do it. >>guest: given the deals we are talking abouts we should not cave on taxes when the amount of spending cuts over 10 years are a drop in the bucket. >>neil: so, when you lost the committee leadership assignment, did that opposition play into that? did speaker boehner say if you were quieter you would still be if a key role? >>guest: well,...
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. >> brenda: well, jonas, didn't michigan, didn't detroit already get a bailout. >> yes, it was called the auto bailout. and before the election, unformer. two administrations that did that. everyone wants a bailout and the president's going to get your votes one way or the other. question is coming up more broadly, right now new jersey and an other of states getting a huge one because it was a cast catastrophe. >> and if it's beyond your control and-- >> the case is we voted for you, we get a bailout. >> and on the other side, detroit is in a multi-decade collapse that is beyond the scope, it's almost like a hurricane. and i'm not saying it's totally insane for nem to get a disproportionate amount-- >> gary b, you live i maryland, should you and maryland be paying for what detroit or michigan is deciding to do with unions and pensions and how they got themselves in this mess in the first place? >> exactly, brenda. i kind of agree with jonas. i'm not sure i'd be so quick bail out cities with national catastrophes. they decided to live there and build there. but jonas it right, a lot of
. >> brenda: well, jonas, didn't michigan, didn't detroit already get a bailout. >> yes, it was called the auto bailout. and before the election, unformer. two administrations that did that. everyone wants a bailout and the president's going to get your votes one way or the other. question is coming up more broadly, right now new jersey and an other of states getting a huge one because it was a cast catastrophe. >> and if it's beyond your control and-- >> the case is we...
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michigan state police inspector is here. good evening. >> good evening, greta. >> greta: were you outside on the grounds yesterday when this went down? >> i was all over the capitol, greta. but when this had platoons surrounding the building, keeping track of the crowd. we do know where the tents were. however, having a ground view and the tents being about 40 deep into the crowd, we were unable to see what was going on. however, when our helicopter reported that it looked like the two canopies had collapsed, we sent two platoons of troopers there to make sure that nobody was injured or trapped under the tents. by the time our troopers worked their way through the crowds, the people were out of the tents. >> greta: now, i take it no arrests were made on the scene, that you didn't get the platoons or single police officers over to the area to make the arrest for these two who had started this destruction? >> no, ma'am. a crowd of this size, this size kind of a mob-like group at that time, is very fluid. we had our hands full,
michigan state police inspector is here. good evening. >> good evening, greta. >> greta: were you outside on the grounds yesterday when this went down? >> i was all over the capitol, greta. but when this had platoons surrounding the building, keeping track of the crowd. we do know where the tents were. however, having a ground view and the tents being about 40 deep into the crowd, we were unable to see what was going on. however, when our helicopter reported that it looked...
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factors say it will bring back jobs to michigan. critics claim it will lead to lower wages and fewer benefits. the governor, the republican governor just signed the bill about an hour ago making michigan the 24th state to be a right-to-work state in the u.s. mike tobin is on fox top story. is he live at the capitol in lansing. i just we just heard from the governor, right, mike? >> we did. we heard from the governor with a column of state troopers in riot gear surrounding his office building from. behind that column of protection he made his announcement that right-to-work is now a reality. here in michigan the cradle of organized labor and the governor explained why. >> fortrong reasons. first of all, worker choice. the freedom to choose and the concept of more and better jobs for our state. i think it was a good thing to sign this legislation and move forward. [shouting] >> the demonstrations did get tough. tent americans for prosperity was toppled by union demonstrators with people inside. there were no significant injuries. ther
factors say it will bring back jobs to michigan. critics claim it will lead to lower wages and fewer benefits. the governor, the republican governor just signed the bill about an hour ago making michigan the 24th state to be a right-to-work state in the u.s. mike tobin is on fox top story. is he live at the capitol in lansing. i just we just heard from the governor, right, mike? >> we did. we heard from the governor with a column of state troopers in riot gear surrounding his office...
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. -- michigan. what is happening now new next hour. jon: mexican american singing sensation jenni rivera is confirmed dead after the plane she was using crashed in mountains in north mexico. six other were killed. they are searching for wreckage in the plane. she sold millions of records and won all kinds of awards. jenna: well a young lukemia patient is now in full remission after a experimental new treatment that some say may change the way that we treat cancer. doctors using a disabled form of hiv altered 6-year-old emma whitehead's immune cells. her parents agreeing to the procedure in a last-ditch effort to save her life. six months later apparently she is doing okay. dr. lee vinocur of lsu is with us now. let's go through this step by step, doctor. why a disabled form of hiv? >> well it is interesting. it is a form of immune therapy and hiv is a virus that invades t-cells and very frequently we use viruses as vehicles to get into cells and by using the t-cells, the t cells get targeted and engineered to kill her b-cells which are
. -- michigan. what is happening now new next hour. jon: mexican american singing sensation jenni rivera is confirmed dead after the plane she was using crashed in mountains in north mexico. six other were killed. they are searching for wreckage in the plane. she sold millions of records and won all kinds of awards. jenna: well a young lukemia patient is now in full remission after a experimental new treatment that some say may change the way that we treat cancer. doctors using a disabled form...